These Claims are unfounded and false claims: 1. Quran was actually written during the lifetime of the prophet for 23 years! by a number of Companions ( The Revelation scripes) including Ubay bin Kaab ,Zeid bin Thabet Abdllah bin Maswood Muawiah etc and everyone kept a compilation of the whole Quran In addition it was Memorized by heart by thousands of the companions 2. The Quran was Gathered in one Authenticated Mushaf at the time of Abo Bakr the First Khalif : he Appoointed Zeid bin Thabet who has to get all the single verses authenticated by written copies 3.At the time of Khalif Othman copies of that Mushaf were sent to different territories as Islam expanded rapidly all written according to Dialect of Quraish Tribe The Meccans who are the descendants of Ishmael Son Of Ibraheem PBUH
As a Professor of Languages related to holy scriptures I guess you would know that Hebrew Arabic and Aramaic language are sister languages! The Aramaic written in Hebrew letters but sounds more related to Arabic than to Hebrew! Allah is the God of Abraham = God of Israel = God of John the Baptist and Jesus the Messiah Cognates of the name "Allāh" exist in other Semitic languages, including Hebrew and Aramaic.[20] The corresponding Aramaic form is Elah (אלה), but its emphatic state is Elaha (אלהא). It is written as ܐܠܗܐ (ʼĔlāhā) in Biblical Aramaic and ܐܲܠܵܗܵܐ (ʼAlâhâ) in Syriac as used by the Assyrian Church, both meaning simply "God".[21] Biblical Hebrew mostly uses the plural (but functional singular) form Elohim(אלהים), but more rarely it also uses the singular form Eloah (אלוהּ)
The Sana'a manuscript, is one of the oldest Quranic manuscripts in existence. It was found, along with many other Quranic and non-Quranic fragments, in Yemen in 1972 during restoration of the Great Mosque of Sana'a. The manuscript is written on parchment, and comprises two layers of text (see palimpsest). The upper text conforms to the standard 'Uthmanic Quran, whereas the lower text contains many variants to the standard text. An edition of the lower text was published in 2012.[1] A radiocarbon analysis has dated the parchment containing the lower text to before 671 AD with accuracy 99%. The so-called Codex Parisino-petropolitanus formerly conserved portions of two of the oldest extant Quranic manuscripts. Most surviving leaves represent a Quran that is preserved in various fragments, the largest part of which are kept in the Bibliothèque nationale de France, as BNF Arabe 328(ab). 46 leaves are held at the National Library of Russia, and one each in the Vatican Library, and in the Khalili Collection.
What is problematic is that some leaves from the Sana'a Qur'an cache have been carbon dated to before the lifetime of Muhammad. The results were reported by Robin in 20015 (“L’Arabie dans le Coran: Réexamen de quelques termes à la lumière des inscriptions préislamiques.” In Les origines du Coran: le Coran des origines, edited by François Déroche, Christian Julien Robin, and Michel Zink, 27–76. Académie des Inscriptions et Belles-Lettres). Two leaves dated from 543–643 CE, one from 433–599 CE, one from 603–662 CE, and one from 388–535 CE, all within 95 percent probability. Robin (2015, 65) reports that the fragment which dated 388–535 CE was retested by three other laboratories, giving the results 504–550 CE (1423 ± 23 BP,32 Oxford), 480–546 CE (1437 ± 33 BP, Zürich), and 410–460 CE (1515 ± 25 BP, Kiel). All these dates are far too early to agree with the conventional account.
This is simply might be the age of the scrolls used for writing as Arabs did not know the know how to produce papers like the Roman Byzantines Egyptians and the Chinese! The Authenticated Quran is well elaborated in the work of Professor Maurice Bcille of the Sorbonne ( The Bible The Quran and Science. The Holy scriptures examined in the light of Modern Knowledge! The prophet was the One who is not learned (prophesized by Isaiah)no Aramaic No Hebrew no Greek not even able to read Arabic so how can he Quote from old or New Testament? Besides Quran add information and contradict information in the Bible Like what your presenter on Sky news mentioned: The Family of Ann Elizabeth Merriam Jesus and John the Baptist was Priestly family Descendants of Qumran and Aron ! Not David and Solomon as the lineage at start of Luke and Mark trying to assign Jesus to David throne and lineage but Jesus the rider of the Ass was the Priestly Messiah while the rider of the camel Mohamed was the Royal Messiah prophesized by Isaiah! Shiloh in Israel will to Judas that king hood in his lineage till prince of Salam= Islam= Shiloh In Arabia there were Orthodox, few Remaining Arius and Nestorius Christians! Besides the Madina was Full of Aronites Levites Jews and Arab Jews all willing to prove Mohamed PBUH wrong! Many highly respectable Theological argument took place between the Prophet and Jews of Madina and Christians of Yemen Nagran. The still historically documented letter of The Prophet to the Byzantine emperor and the Governor of Egypt Al Mqwaqs are available in Islamic and non Islamic source
But First and above All Quran came to our Generation by Tawator ( which means from a alarge group of companions (including 10 Authentic dialects Qerraa 10 ways of Recitation dictated by the prophet himself received from ArchAngel Gibrael to a large group of named Followers generation after Generation till our present time! The Quran never left the chests hearts and minds of the Moslem Nation! When a moslem is Authenticated in reciting of the Quran by the way of Imam Nafea from Ubai bin Kaab from the Prophet! Or Hafs from Aden from Aly bin Abi Taleb the cousin of the prophet from the prophet! Yes there is Maacan Marina Kuta Basra and Levant Ways of Recitation but the Quran Uthmany at the time of the companions was written on Quraish dialect not the Arabs of The Levant
A problem occurs when one compares the character of God in the Christians Scriptures and the character of Allah in the Qur'an. They are very different. Both cannot be the eternal Creator. Read the texts and let the natural sense of the language be the guide to which has the most credible claim.
This of course presents another problem. The Christian Scriptures can be understood by the simplest believer because they follow the natural use of language and clearly display both coherence and cohesion. The Qur'an does not. So it can only be properly understood by the "religious experts" who are ingenuous when interpreting the text. The key feature or intention of all languages is to communicate and not confuse. I believe that a Creator who speaks to his creatures is more than able to do so in simple and clear language.
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These Claims are unfounded and false claims:
ReplyDelete1. Quran was actually written during the lifetime of the prophet for 23 years! by a number of Companions ( The Revelation scripes) including Ubay bin Kaab ,Zeid bin Thabet Abdllah bin Maswood Muawiah etc and everyone kept a compilation of the whole Quran
In addition it was Memorized by heart by thousands of the companions
2. The Quran was Gathered in one Authenticated Mushaf at the time of Abo Bakr the First Khalif : he Appoointed Zeid bin Thabet who has to get all the single verses authenticated by written copies
3.At the time of Khalif Othman copies of that Mushaf were sent to different territories as Islam expanded rapidly all written according to Dialect of Quraish Tribe The Meccans who are the descendants of Ishmael Son Of Ibraheem PBUH
This is the conventional Islamic account, yes. Is it true - that is the question.
DeleteAs a Professor of Languages related to holy scriptures I guess you would know that Hebrew Arabic and Aramaic language are sister languages! The Aramaic written in Hebrew letters but sounds more related to Arabic than to Hebrew!
DeleteAllah is the God of Abraham = God of Israel = God of John the Baptist and Jesus the Messiah
Cognates of the name "Allāh" exist in other Semitic languages, including Hebrew and Aramaic.[20] The corresponding Aramaic form is Elah (אלה), but its emphatic state is Elaha (אלהא). It is written as ܐܠܗܐ (ʼĔlāhā) in Biblical Aramaic and ܐܲܠܵܗܵܐ (ʼAlâhâ) in Syriac as used by the Assyrian Church, both meaning simply "God".[21] Biblical Hebrew mostly uses the plural (but functional singular) form Elohim(אלהים), but more rarely it also uses the singular form Eloah (אלוהּ)
The Sana'a manuscript, is one of the oldest Quranic manuscripts in existence. It was found, along with many other Quranic and non-Quranic fragments, in Yemen in 1972 during restoration of the Great Mosque of Sana'a. The manuscript is written on parchment, and comprises two layers of text (see palimpsest). The upper text conforms to the standard 'Uthmanic Quran, whereas the lower text contains many variants to the standard text. An edition of the lower text was published in 2012.[1] A radiocarbon analysis has dated the parchment containing the lower text to before 671 AD with accuracy 99%.
ReplyDeleteThe so-called Codex Parisino-petropolitanus formerly conserved portions of two of the oldest extant Quranic manuscripts. Most surviving leaves represent a Quran that is preserved in various fragments, the largest part of which are kept in the Bibliothèque nationale de France, as BNF Arabe 328(ab). 46 leaves are held at the National Library of Russia, and one each in the Vatican Library, and in the Khalili Collection.
What is problematic is that some leaves from the Sana'a Qur'an cache have been carbon dated to before the lifetime of Muhammad. The results were reported by Robin in 20015 (“L’Arabie dans le Coran: Réexamen de quelques termes à la lumière
Deletedes inscriptions préislamiques.” In Les origines du Coran: le Coran des origines,
edited by François Déroche, Christian Julien Robin, and Michel Zink, 27–76. Académie
des Inscriptions et Belles-Lettres). Two leaves dated from 543–643 CE, one from 433–599 CE, one from 603–662 CE, and one from 388–535 CE, all within 95 percent probability. Robin (2015, 65) reports that
the fragment which dated 388–535 CE was retested by three other laboratories,
giving the results 504–550 CE (1423 ± 23 BP,32 Oxford), 480–546 CE (1437 ± 33 BP, Zürich), and 410–460 CE (1515 ± 25 BP, Kiel). All these dates are far too early to agree with the conventional account.
This is simply might be the age of the scrolls used for writing as Arabs did not know the know how to produce papers like the Roman Byzantines Egyptians and the Chinese! The Authenticated Quran is well elaborated in the work of Professor Maurice Bcille of the Sorbonne ( The Bible The Quran and Science. The Holy scriptures examined in the light of Modern Knowledge! The prophet was the One who is not learned (prophesized by Isaiah)no Aramaic No Hebrew no Greek not even able to read Arabic so how can he Quote from old or New Testament?
DeleteBesides Quran add information and contradict information in the Bible Like what your presenter on Sky news mentioned: The Family of Ann Elizabeth Merriam Jesus and John the Baptist was Priestly family Descendants of Qumran and Aron ! Not David and Solomon as the lineage at start of Luke and Mark trying to assign Jesus to David throne and lineage but Jesus the rider of the Ass was the Priestly Messiah while the rider of the camel Mohamed was the Royal Messiah prophesized by Isaiah! Shiloh in Israel will to Judas that king hood in his lineage till prince of Salam= Islam= Shiloh
In Arabia there were Orthodox, few Remaining Arius and Nestorius Christians! Besides the Madina was Full of Aronites Levites Jews and Arab Jews all willing to prove Mohamed PBUH wrong!
Many highly respectable Theological argument took place between the Prophet and Jews of Madina and Christians of Yemen Nagran. The still historically documented letter of The Prophet to the Byzantine emperor and the Governor of Egypt Al Mqwaqs are available in Islamic and non Islamic source
But First and above All Quran came to our Generation by Tawator ( which means from a alarge group of companions (including 10 Authentic dialects Qerraa 10 ways of Recitation dictated by the prophet himself received from ArchAngel Gibrael to a large group of named Followers generation after Generation till our present time! The Quran never left the chests hearts and minds of the Moslem Nation!
ReplyDeleteWhen a moslem is Authenticated in reciting of the Quran by the way of Imam Nafea from Ubai bin Kaab from the Prophet!
Or Hafs from Aden from Aly bin Abi Taleb the cousin of the prophet from the prophet!
Yes there is Maacan Marina Kuta Basra and Levant Ways of Recitation but the Quran Uthmany at the time of the companions was written on Quraish dialect not the Arabs of The Levant
A problem occurs when one compares the character of God in the Christians Scriptures and the character of Allah in the Qur'an. They are very different. Both cannot be the eternal Creator. Read the texts and let the natural sense of the language be the guide to which has the most credible claim.
ReplyDeleteThis of course presents another problem. The Christian Scriptures can be understood by the simplest believer because they follow the natural use of language and clearly display both coherence and cohesion. The Qur'an does not. So it can only be properly understood by the "religious experts" who are ingenuous when interpreting the text. The key feature or intention of all languages is to communicate and not confuse. I believe that a Creator who speaks to his creatures is more than able to do so in simple and clear language.